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kaz
Posted: Monday, October 06, 2008 9:01:27 AM

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Lol love it, and the fig thats holdine it.

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Posted: Monday, October 06, 2008 9:30:38 AM


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Before I even saw the caption, I knew that the 'fig just had to be the immortal Inigo Montoya. Can you make us a Fezzik as well? ;)

Enough nonsense on my part, nice work, Will! Once I wake up completely, I will begin to drool. And think of potential mods. And check the Rumors thread . . .

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Damien
Posted: Monday, October 06, 2008 9:38:48 AM


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Out of curiosity, Can the minifig grip the hilt by the Weighted end?


The pommel.

And as Badger said - it can't be. And no real alteration could change that. Adding a grip point where the pommel is would mean adding a chunky, ugly shape there. Trust us, it would look terrible. However, don't fret. In real schools of fence, that isn't how a rapier should be held (I.E. you don't hold a rapier pointed straight forward). Indeed, you turn your body to the side and point it to that side (thus presenting the smallest target area possible on your own body). A minifig can accomplish this already. Just place the rapier in the minifig hand and turn the wrist and sword in one direction:








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It is good but the grip is a little short and chubby, a little longer perhaps?


Certainly not. That would look most odd! Rapiers are solely single-hand swords, designed to fit the hand comfortably between quillions and pommel. The grip is rarely more than a hair longer than the width of the hand, so Will's version here is perfectly accurate. Besides the accuracy issue, a longer grip would add even more weight to that area. A rapier already carries most of its visual weight in the hilt, so adding more unnecessarily would hurt the overall feel and mass of the item.



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Posted: Monday, October 06, 2008 10:42:22 AM

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I am lost for words ........ I think my minifigs has gone to heaven without me......

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Posted: Monday, October 06, 2008 6:50:23 PM

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So much awesome, I wish I was at Brickcon!

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Posted: Monday, October 06, 2008 6:54:14 PM

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:O Wow Will that looks awesome! I'm not a big fan of swords or castle type stuff but that makes me want to go make a Three Musketeer video.
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Posted: Monday, October 06, 2008 11:08:41 PM

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Irina Spalko will be most pleased. The cutlass seemed a little odd and out of place.

As for the pink one...decorative toothpicks anyone? ;)

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Posted: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 12:10:28 PM
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Damien wrote:
The pommel.


Thanks, I I knew "Weighted End" sounded too clunky, but I haven't used sword terminology in so long... Thanks a bunch!


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And as Badger said - it can't be. And no real alteration could change that. Adding a grip point where the pommel is would mean adding a chunky, ugly shape there. Trust us, it would look terrible ...In real schools of fence, that isn't how a rapier should be held Indeed, you turn your body to the side and point it to that side, A minifig can accomplish this already. Just place the rapier in the minifig hand and turn the wrist and sword in one direction.


Okay, I was kinda thinking of the little dot-pommel they have on the TLC cutlass, as If I remember correctly, it is barley grippable, but I think I see your point. The Rapier would look too unnatural like that without the Cutlass style swept hilt. Besides which, you're right about the Minifig posing.

I had honestly never thought about the minifing holding the weapon that way! I must get my mind out of this "Minifigs must fight facing forwards" mentality. Thank You! :D
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Posted: Thursday, October 09, 2008 11:01:10 PM

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Wow! Cool! I love the Princess Bride, too. "Anybody want a peanut?"

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Posted: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:21:02 PM

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Well, it'll be longswords and rapiers for me then.

This one saves me a lot of trouble cutting down my lances to make rapiers. and saves me 10 lances as well, so Thanks!
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Posted: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 9:34:41 AM

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hmmmm indy's not gonna like it when Irina Spalko gets her hands on this

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Posted: Friday, October 17, 2008 10:57:37 PM

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the enigma that is badger wrote:
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You steal my BrickArms. Prepare to die."

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HAHA awesome! That's exactly what I was thinking when I saw the last pic! Wow, I can't believe BA is doing swords!
(still, wish we had the old guns...*sigh*)

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Posted: Friday, October 17, 2008 11:05:30 PM


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dinod8 wrote:
still, wish we had the old guns...*sigh*

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Yes, currently modern and WWII items far out number more historical items. However, when you take into account the edged pieces as well as the items listed above, Will is clearly expanding BA into new directions. Should they prove to be fan favorite, expect to see more historically-oriented items in the future!

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Posted: Saturday, October 18, 2008 1:55:24 AM


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I think what he meant is that he wishes that the H&K weapons weren't currently unavailable. :-)

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Posted: Saturday, October 18, 2008 1:11:34 PM

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Not sure what you mean, but I mean I wish the MP5 and G36 were available.
Ah well. :((

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the enigma that is badger
Posted: Saturday, October 18, 2008 1:24:40 PM


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dinod8 wrote:
Not sure what you mean, but I mean I wish the MP5 and G36 were available.

Ah, I took "old" to mean historical, not "previously available." Precision of language people!

Again, yes, some items are not currently available on the website. This is due to issues beyond Will's control. If he could offer them for sale, he would. All we can say is to sit tight, and see what the future holds.

Let's keep the focus on the Rapier from here on out.


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Posted: Saturday, October 18, 2008 1:36:36 PM

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I like this one! Although if i was to buy one it could be mistaken for a sword toothpick, i'd have to watch it's back. :)

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Posted: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 8:23:43 PM

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I almost hate to bring up the issue of the pommel again after Damien's excellent post further clarifying the issue... but it would seem that a modification to the current pommel, of trimming down the sides while keeping the portion opposite the curved guard wider then the grip, would possibly make the sword grippable in the manner mentioned?

Apologies if I am unclear... I may have to sketch my point, and further I don't know if such a modification would make it grippable, but it seems like it would.

Thanks!

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Posted: Monday, October 27, 2008 6:15:53 PM

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I am an actual fencer and I give this two thumbs up, 5/5, etc. This is a must have for me.

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Damien
Posted: Monday, October 27, 2008 6:35:41 PM


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would possibly make the sword grippable in the manner mentioned?


Sort of. However, it would also ruin the dimensions of the item - blurring the transition between grip and pommel. The resultant piece would appear as though the grip itself simply 'fans out' at the end, as the pommel would no longer appear to be a separate and distinct piece of the weapon.

Ultimately, it's simply too much of a loss of detail, especially to facilitate a grip method that would look strange anyway. Of course, you're always welcome to modify the item yourself by shaving down the pommel yourself, if you so desire.



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