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The first one you mentioned is a Boarding Specialist. And yes, the TLC skateboard helmets would be perfect! The second one I have already mentioned as a grounf-based SEAL. I'd like to summarise key points of all the minifigs discussed in this thread: Modern US Infantryman (Army/Marine Corps)Some sort of helmet/body armour (I had proposed the currently unlikely PASGT helmet and the Interceptor vest in another thread. Maybe Will has other, better, ideas in mind.) (1) M4 Carbine (2) M67 Grenades (1) M1911 Pistol (or any other suitable weapon) They can come in either Desert BDU, Woodland BDU, the new ACU, or plain white (Arctic) Delta Force operativeSome sort of black vest TLC Skateboard helmet (closest resemblence from watching Black Hawk Down(1) M4 Carbine (1) M47 Shotgun * (MP5 removed due to inappropriateness) (2) M67 Grenades (1) M1911 Pistol (or any other suitable weapon) Base minifig can come in either Desert BDU or Woodland BDU. US Navy SEAL - diverTLC Helmet with Scuba goggles Brick-built Draeger rebreather (design as suggested by ghost) Pair of flippers Dino Attack head with grey camo streaks (1) M23 SOCOM Pistol (1) MP5 SMG (1) TLC Dagger (2) M67 Grenades US Navy SEAL - boarding specialistTLC skateboard helmet (with NVG?) Dino Attack head with grey camo streaks (1) M23 SOCOM Pistol (1) MP5 SMG (1) TLC Dagger (2) M67 Grenades US Navy SEAL - groundSimilar fatigues to Army/Marine Corps Infantrymen Dino Attack head with grey camo streaks (1) M23 SOCOM Pistol (1) MP5 SMG/M4 Carbine (with a M203 Grenade Launcher?) (1) TLC Dagger (2) M67 Grenades Some sort of hat ( Boonie hat) and a compatible NVG accessory? Facial camouflage? Any accessories that cannot be produced with Will's current facilites can be depicted as decals. Sorry for the l o n g post...
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Greenlead About some NVGs, go to http://forums.brickarms.com/spotlight/JeremyRear.aspx and click on the second picture. It is the breathing apperatus from one of the City Fire Fighting sets (7942). It's the closest thing I have seen to NVGs so far. As to the headwear, I also use the Rock Raider helmet, the black knit cap, and the hoods from the Star Wars mini-figs. I like the hoods for either desert (the brown one) troopers or night ops (the black one). I also use the skateboard helmets for some of my troopers. I love the Draeger Rebreather design. You and Ghost did a great job!
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Greenlead, just wondering, but why would the Delta operative get both an M4 and an MP5? Personally, I think a good idea would be for the Delta operative to get a Brickarms M4 with a shortened barrel and the monopod(when it comes out). It gives it a more customized and "special" feel or look. And instead of the MP5, I think he should get a shotgun. Mmcb's holsters would come in handy for that. Oh, by the way, as far as the heads go, for the Delta Operator and the ground ops SEAL, faces with facial hair would be great. I don't know if you knew this, but special forces operators are actually permitted to grow their hair out longer and grow beards. rillo wrote:
I love the Draeger Rebreather design.
You and Ghost did a great job!
Thanks Rillo!
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ghost wrote:why would the Delta operative get both an M4 and an MP5? Hang on, that wasn't supposed to happen! - I'll have it crossed out. And a M47 shotgun would definately be just what the doctor ordered. Good on ya for noticing the slip-up! ghost wrote:as far as the heads go, for the Delta Operator and the ground ops SEAL, faces with facial hair would be great. I don't know if you knew this, but special forces operators are actually permitted to grow their hair out longer and grow beards. In a Time magazine article, a Delta Operator known only as "Dave" had a Hagrid-esque beard. While we won't be seeing Hagrid signing up for Delta Force anytime soon, any minifig head with stubbles would be good. rillo wrote:About some NVGs, go tohttp://forums.brickarms.com/spotlight/JeremyRear.aspx and click on the second picture. Yep, I've seen that before. Thanks! rillo wrote:You and Ghost did a great job! You've got to thank my (currently empty) cup of Herbal Tea, which keeps my mind sharp whenever I'm doodling or doing mockups!
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Seeing as how a solution for a Navy SEAL fig has been reached, I think we should focus on the other suggested minifig on this thread; Modern US Infantry. Wouldn't it be nice to include the "good ol' USMC?" They have two digital patterns of their own, called MARPAT. The jungle/woodland version was just shown in that link. Here's a pic of the desert version. I don't know how hard it would be to make a decal for. I just figured I'd put my two cents in about that, since the army's ACUPAT was mentioned.
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I'm keen on seeing the ACUPAT too. As for the Marine Corps MARPAT, I think the older Army Woodland and Desert BDUs would suffice. From an earlier post GreenLead wrote:Either by decals or Citadel paints, although the latter is almost definitely labour-intensive ;)
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The new ACU, Woodland BDU, Desert BDU and Arctic.
Exploring in detail how the first three scheme are to be portrayed in Lego:
ACU Scheme
Minifig parts to be represented by this scheme will be TLC Sand Green. Apply transparent waterslide decals with white (edit: tan) patterns on it.
(Older) Woodland BDU Scheme
Minifig parts to be represented by this scheme will be TLC Green. Apply transparent waterslide decals with black, brown and tan patterns on it.
(Older) Desert BDU Scheme
Minifig parts to be represented by this scheme will be TLC Tan/suitable shade of cream. Apply transparent waterslide decals with sand green and brown patterns on it. However, in a PM from Will, he has said that because the decal printer he uses is no longer in production (no spare parts in case of breakdowns), he tends to be very careful not to give it too intense printing runs that the full body minifig camo decals will most likely require. In addition, I myself have noticed that the decals would take significant amounts of time to apply. Obxcrew suggested solid colour to "represent" each camo scheme. I'm not keen on this as I believe each custom minifig is a work of art (like the Limited Edition WWII Medics). I am currently working on a possible solution, but I can't be sure if it would work.
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GreenLead wrote:US Navy SEAL - diver
US Navy SEAL - boarding specialist
US Navy SEAL - ground Doesn't all these navy personal have to much of the same weapons?
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Looking at the list again, I don't think the diver fig should get grenades. Everything else, but no frags. The boarding specialist, I think, should get a different head. A head with a balaclava would suffice. Delta Force wrote:
Doesn't all these navy personal have to much of the same weapons?
I guess they are similar in their "equipment loadout". What weapons would you suggest? Personally, I think the equipment is just fine the way it is, besides what I've stated above. The diver is equipped for beach recon missions. They scan and secure beach heads(this may sometimes include demolition of beach obstacles). They report enemy activity and unit strength on the shore prior to amphibious assaults conducted by marines. The SEAL boarding specialists are experts at close quarters combat, room clearing, hostage rescue, and counter-terrorist operations. The MP5 is a prime weapon for close quarters combat. Last but not least, we have the ground combat variant. They excel in direct action raids and deep reconaissance. They will probably have the M4. Some of them could be modded with an M203 grenade launcher. Delta Force, I'm not trying to call you out or anything. I'm just giving some info on each role. But what would you like to see?
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I agree with with ghost. There's not a lot of weapons variation among Navy SEALs even in different roles.
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GreenLead wrote:I agree with with ghost. There's not a lot of weapons variation among Navy SEALs even in different roles. Yah, pretty much. Unless they're a SEAL marksman. In which case they would use the MK-11 / SR-25 which, at minifig scale would look just like an M4 with a high power scope. And that could be modded at home. SEAL snipers would use weapons like the M-40 and M-82/M-107, but it would be pointless to make a "navy SEAL sniper". A sniper fig would work for any branch, but thats a different topic.
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Good point about the pointless of a Navy SEAL sniper! (Excuse the waffling) Some goeths for the Delta Force - a sniper fig for them would be somewhat redundant. However, an Army/Marines Sniper/Spotter pair would be quite good. Both can have sidearms, but the sniper gets the PSG1 and the spotter, a pair of binoculars. The figs could be made similar to each other because in real life, snipers and spotters often exchange roles from mission to mission.
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Snipers would be pretty cool. I wonder what you could do to represent a ghillie suit. I've seen pictures on brickshelf and they just use the cape piece and a hood. I agree, they both should get sidearms. Probably M1911s. As for the spotter fig, he should get an M4 with an M203. The M203 could be modded at home. Spotters usually carry an M16 or M4 with an M203. And yes, you're right, they do often swap positions on long operations. Obviously snipers like this would be easy to do. Here's a better picture. I guess you could use the Kashykk troop torsos from bricklink, with sand green legs and arms, and a brown cape..... This probably belongs in a new thread though. By the way, the SEAL figs would be able to double as Marines Force Recon troops, since they wear/use the same kit and do the same/similar jobs. You probably would have thought these guys were SEALs if it didn't say "force recon" at the bottom.
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Ghillie suits are way too difficult to be made in large quantities by Will. Badger has once suggested some resources for modding your own ghillie. The sniper and spotter can just have camo fatigues (no vest) with a woolen hat/beanie. But yes, the spotter can also have the M4 Carbine. While SEAL figs can double as Force Recon Marines, I think the original suggestion was for a generic Modern US Infantryman with a helmet and a vest to represent both Army and Marine Corps Infantrymen.
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GreenLead wrote:Badger has once suggested some resources for modding your own ghillie. Do you remember what they were? Would it be made completely out of Lego? I found this on brickshelf. I'm guessing the first guy on the left is a sniper. Here's another pic.
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The BrickShelf links are definitely that of snipers, although the Exo-Force manga hairpieces aren't all that easy to get. As for the ghillie: the enigma that is badger wrote:A ghillie suit, while interesting, is something far too intricate for Will for to produce commercially. However, there are some great resources available for you to make your own. I'm happy for un-ghillied snipers that customers can add to later. Besides, they can share some of the decals with the standard Infantry figs.
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So since Delta Force Operatives are actually one of the suggestions in this thread, I figured I'd mention that some of the Delta figs could have a masterkey mod on their M4 rifles. Silicon Creature posted an M4 with a masterkey mod, and it looked really good. By the way, besides having heads with facial hair, some of them could be wearing sunglasses. It's a common site in pictures with special forces operators.(either that or their eyes are blacked out)
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I made a team of delta force guys, and if brickarms made them it would be a great addition to my team.
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manly_man_14 wrote:I made a team of delta force guys Cool. Do you have a link? Are they posted on Brickshelf?
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No, i haven't taken any photos of them yet, but I will post them when I do.
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ghost wrote:Silicon Creature posted an M4 with a masterkey mod, and it looked really good. I'll go have a look now. In the meantime, I think I'll also have to bring the Masterkey up in the Reborn thread. manly_man_14 wrote:I made a team of delta force guys I await your pics! They could be good reference material.
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