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JadenStareye
Posted: Monday, January 21, 2008 7:43:42 PM

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ghost
Posted: Saturday, January 26, 2008 2:18:34 AM

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I think a Navy SEAL Brickarms fig would be great. Standard infantry just seems pretty simple to make and have it look how you want it to by using the TLC parts that are available.(at least to me) Maybe it's just me, but Navy SEALs are much more of a distinct figure. Here is a good picture of some SEALs with a draeger rebreather. Of course it would have to be built, but it's one of the key physical features of SEALs with scuba gear. The purpose of the design is to prevent bubbles from going to the surface when exhaling. I think it's called a "closed circuit" scuba rig. Now, I know Will and Badger have said that equipment is not the focus of Brickarms, but I recall Badger saying that he'd like to see a Navy SEAL fig with an "aquatic" look(operating underwater is what seperates them from other special forces units.), and this is all part of the look.

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GreenLead
Posted: Saturday, January 26, 2008 2:33:56 AM

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Interesting idea you have there for the Navy SEAL fig, ghost. Would a TLC diver's airtank suffice for the aforementioned Draeger rebreather?


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ghost
Posted: Saturday, January 26, 2008 3:04:07 AM

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No, the Draeger rebreather is much different, as it is worn on the front of the body, and it's much much smaller. Of course since it's smaller means that it holds less air, but it's designed for a stealthy insertion as opposed to prolonged operation underwater.

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GreenLead
Posted: Saturday, January 26, 2008 3:50:12 AM

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I see. But since Will isn't doing helmets/body armour/custom rebreathers anytime soon, I guess a ground version of the Navy SEAL would have to suffice for now.

Recap:

GreenLead wrote:

US Navy SEAL - ground
Similar fatigues to Army/Marine Corps Infantrymen
(1) M23 SOCOM Pistol
(1) MP5 SMG/M4 Carbine (with a M203 Grenade Launcher?)
(1) TLC Dagger
(2) M67 Grenades
Some sort of hat (Boonie hat) and a compatible NVG accessory?
Facial camouflage?

Some notes:
- full body camo fatigue decals aren't likely anytime soon due to Will telling me in a PM that spare parts for his currently operational decal printer are no longer available (in case of a breakdown) and he's reserving it for printing decals that are more urgently needed (e.g. the WWII medic). But if such decals were to become available, Desert BDU would be a good choice for a ground-based SEAL fig, for contrast.
- Out of the MP5 and M4, the latter seems a better fit.
- Boonie hats, like any headwear suggestions, aren't likely.

Perhaps someone can update this list with parts that are more likely to be available from Will's minifig parts suppliers?


LS DoD appointed Technical Advisor to 2nd Infantry Division's "A" Company and his Flickr
"Some folks don't want peace - they want quiet. But until there is justice, there will be no peace and quiet."
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tedward
Posted: Saturday, January 26, 2008 5:39:23 PM

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Re: Boonie hats - what about using the Aussie digger hat (Johnnie Thunder) turned with the fold at front or back? Not exactly right but similar enough to a boonie hat when combined with other Seal gear perhaps?



obxcrew
Posted: Saturday, January 26, 2008 6:29:57 PM


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tedward wrote:
Re: Boonie hats - what about using the Aussie digger hat (Johnnie Thunder) turned with the fold at front or back? Not exactly right but similar enough to a boonie hat when combined with other Seal gear perhaps?


I agree that the TLC bush hat (in Black, of course) is a good stand-in for the Boonie - that's what I used for my Navy SEAL minifig.

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GreenLead
Posted: Saturday, January 26, 2008 6:46:32 PM

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Yep, I'm going to have to agree with tedward and obxcrew about using the TLC bush hat as a stand-in for the boonie. In fact, look what I found!

(Does this and obxcrew's fig suggest...he's Jeremy Rear?)


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"Some folks don't want peace - they want quiet. But until there is justice, there will be no peace and quiet."
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obxcrew
Posted: Saturday, January 26, 2008 8:06:40 PM


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GreenLead wrote:
In fact, look what I found!

(Does this and obxcrew's fig suggest...he's Jeremy Rear?)


No, I'm not Jeremy Rear - I just based my Navy SEAL minifig on his. When I originally posted the minifig, I gave him credit, though I forgot to when I just linked to it. Sorry!

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GreenLead
Posted: Saturday, January 26, 2008 8:42:14 PM

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Nah, no worries. A case of mistaken identity...

Okay, so the boonie's sorted. Now, should the torso decal be that of a simple fatigue, or have a vest drawn on it?


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"Some folks don't want peace - they want quiet. But until there is justice, there will be no peace and quiet."
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obxcrew
Posted: Saturday, January 26, 2008 8:43:47 PM


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GreenLead wrote:
Now, should the torso decal be that of a simple fatigue, or have a vest drawn on it?


I opt for the vest decal.

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GreenLead
Posted: Saturday, January 26, 2008 9:12:43 PM

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In which case, for the sake of simplicity, I'm in agreement that the vest should be a decal.


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"Some folks don't want peace - they want quiet. But until there is justice, there will be no peace and quiet."
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Randomness
Posted: Saturday, January 26, 2008 9:13:57 PM

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Yay for agreement!

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Posted: Sunday, January 27, 2008 2:18:14 AM

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You know, I was thinking about this today. It could be possible to build something that resembles the draeger scuba rig with available TLC pieces. You could use the TLC neck bracket with stud piece(in black of course), and attach this piece facing downwards, and on either side of the part facing the bottom, you could place a yellow round 1x1 stud to represent the small scuba tank. And to finish it off put a smooth black 1x1 plate on the top part of this piece, and you've got yourself an improvised Navy SEAL draeger scuba rig. I wish I could have illustrated it but I don't have LDRAW or anything like that.

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ghost
Posted: Sunday, January 27, 2008 2:56:17 AM

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Yes! Thank you so much, Greenlead! Wow I love it. You wouldn't mind modelling it on a minifig, would you? Just to see how it looks.

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GreenLead
Posted: Sunday, January 27, 2008 5:45:19 PM

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ghost wrote:
You wouldn't mind modelling it on a minifig, would you? Just to see how it looks.

5min 37s LDraw mockup by GreenLead - the "You ask, I do" bloke ;)

As the fig is wearing a wetsuit under the Draeger, there is no need for a decal (at this stage).

Now he can have the following:
(1) M23 SOCOM Pistol
(1) M4 Carbine (with a M203 Grenade Launcher?)
(1) TLC Dagger
(2) M67 Grenades on rubber band


LS DoD appointed Technical Advisor to 2nd Infantry Division's "A" Company and his Flickr
"Some folks don't want peace - they want quiet. But until there is justice, there will be no peace and quiet."
- Rev. Jesse Jackson (modified)
ghost
Posted: Monday, January 28, 2008 2:11:28 PM

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Greenlead, he looks awesome! Even better than I thought it would look. He looks ready for a beach recon mission.(mission which prepares for an amphibious assault by marines.) As for the weapons, it would pretty much depend on the mission. For beach recon he could get either the M4 or MP5, M23 SOCOM, and knife. The grenades seem like too much to me for a beach scan. This fig would also work for a stealthy sabotage mission on a merchant ship.(or a destroyer or something if you'd like to spice it up.) For the stealth sabotage, he could get the Brickarms MP5, maybe modded with a silencer, the M23 SOCOM, dagger, and a couple grenades. I think he could use this torso. It would pretty much finish up the look. This head would be great too. Thanks again, Greenlead.

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Posted: Monday, January 28, 2008 2:17:18 PM

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I wonder if you can get binoculars on to a helmet to make night vision goggles like the delta force guy

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GreenLead
Posted: Monday, January 28, 2008 6:23:14 PM

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I think that TLC binoculars (ordinary or the Rock Raiders Sci-fi one) are too bulky. An extended discussion about NVGs can be found, incidentally, in the Splinter Cell thread.

For the Delta Force fig, a black TLC skateboard helmet is perfect. But how can we mount a hypothetical NVG accessory on it, without modifying the TLC helmet?


LS DoD appointed Technical Advisor to 2nd Infantry Division's "A" Company and his Flickr
"Some folks don't want peace - they want quiet. But until there is justice, there will be no peace and quiet."
- Rev. Jesse Jackson (modified)
ghost
Posted: Monday, January 28, 2008 9:11:03 PM

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Actually the black skateboard helmets would work well for SEALs too. They use them for close quarters combat. Here's a better picture.The figs that Jeremy Rear made would be great for those types of figs, just switch the headgear for the black helmets, and they would look just like SEAL cqb(close quarters battle) specialists. A SEAL like this would be cool too.

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