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it would be realy cool if will started makeing them
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It sure would be! Also, can you post a reference picture of a real US navy seal desert marine so we can get an idea of what were visualizing here? Still from my knowleage, it sounds like a great suddgestion!
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the desert camo looks like this and a nevy seal would look somthing like this that was desert camo seals this is camo for like raiding missions on like boats and stuff like that this is jungle camo i recomend this and here are some that they use in urban areas like cities [MOD - Please use the "link" button (globe with the chain) to create embedded links in your posts rather than posting the entire address. Thanks! - badger]
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Wow, some of these guys got crazy uniforms. in minfig form, those would look amazing! My favorite is the diver!
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Yes, I'd really love to see some modern US Infantrymen (Both Army and Marines), Delta Force and Navy Seals. For the Army and Marines, I had been exploring the possibility of BrickArms producing some PASGT helmets in this thread, but by the looks of things it's very very unlikely. Delta Force could use these helmets - the TLC skateboarding helmets (in black, of course). I got the idea from watching Black Hawk Down and noting the resemblence. Navy SEAL? Awesome idea too, especially if they come with NVGs.
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I like all these, and if they were available in minifig form, I would purchase quite a few. My favourite would have be the urban and frogman (water based) uniforms the most. Thanks for sharing the links ktear501.
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Here's my suggestions for the minifigs: Modern US Infantryman (Army/Marine Corps)Some sort of helmet/body armour (I had proposed the currently unlikely PASGT helmet and the Interceptor vest in another thread. Maybe Will has other, better, ideas in mind.) (1) M4 Carbine (2) M67 Grenades (1) M1911 Pistol (or any other suitable weapon) They can come in either Desert BDU, Woodland BDU, or plain white (Arctic) Delta Force operativeSome sort of black vest TLC Skateboard helmet (closest resemblence from watching Black Hawk Down(1) M4 Carbine (1) MP5 SMG (2) M67 Grenades (1) M1911 Pistol (or any other suitable weapon) Base minifig can come in either Desert BDU or Woodland BDU. US Navy SEAL - diverTLC Helmet with Scuba goggles and tank Pair of flippers (1) M23 SOCOM Pistol (1) M4 Carbine (with a M203 Grenade Launcher?) (1) TLC Dagger (2) M67 Grenades What does everyone think?
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Yep. So for any of the three minifigs, customers can specify if they want the M4 Carbine to be replaced by the PSG1, and the M67 grenades taken off as well.
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GreenLead, how do you propose the camouflage be represented in LEGO? Also, the new ACU camouflage would most likely be a better choice to use, as it is now the standard U.S. camo (for both desert and woodland environments).
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Either by decals or Citadel paints, although the latter is almost definitely labour-intensive ;) I don't know why I'm not keen on the ACU, even though it is as you said, the standard US camouflage scheme. But I suppose we can have the ACU alongside the older schemes. So now there's FOUR choices: The new ACU, Woodland BDU, Desert BDU and Arctic. Exploring in detail how the first three scheme are to be portrayed in Lego: ACU SchemeMinifig parts to be represented by this scheme will be TLC Sand Green. Apply transparent waterslide decals with white patterns on it. (Older) Woodland BDU SchemeMinifig parts to be represented by this scheme will be TLC Green. Apply transparent waterslide decals with black, brown and tan patterns on it. (Older) Desert BDU SchemeMinifig parts to be represented by this scheme will be TLC Tan/suitable shade of cream. Apply transparent waterslide decals with sand green and brown patterns on it. Hope this is feasible.
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It just seems (to me) that the waterslide decals on the arms would be difficult to apply, and would come off easily. Here's another idea: perhaps just the solid TLC colors you suggested could be used, without the decals. The solid colors would 'represent' the actual camouflage patterns. Yes, this method would not be as accurate, but it would be far easier to make.
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You're quite right about the arms, although before I rediscovered Lego, I was reading about model-making. Curved parts can still have decals, it's just that special decal application kits are needed. Afterwards, a dull clear coat protects the decal from peeling off. See Jared Burks (Kaminoan's Fine Clonier Decals) for his tutorial on minifig decals, including his photos of minifig clone troopers with successful arm and helmet decals. Of course, Damien will amaze us with more of his wonderful work. Therefore, I think decals on curved parts like arms and helmets are feasible. BTW, I saw a unit insignia patch on the arms of one of Damien's custom minifigs.
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GreenLead wrote:You're quite right about the arms, although before I rediscovered Lego, I was reading about model-making. Curved parts can still have decals, it's just that special decal application kits are needed. Afterwards, a dull clear coat protects the decal from peeling off.
See Jared Burks (Kaminoan's Fine Clonier Decals) for his tutorial on minifig decals, including his photos of minifig clone troopers with successful arm and helmet decals. Thanks for letting me know, I didn't know that was possible. GreenLead wrote:BTW, I saw a unit insignia patch on the arms of one of Damien's custom minifigs. Which minifigure? Or can you provide a link?
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I'm still looking for it. At this point I'm not even sure whether it was Damien's or Will's design, or if it even was on the BrickArms main site or forums. I remember it was something along the lines of "US??" in gold. Anyway, the point is that full-arm decals for the camo schemes may be possible, albeit quite a lot of work is required to apply them. What about a Army/Marine Corps armoured vehicle driver/crewman with an Uzi or the M4 Carbine used to represent a M231 Firing Port Weapon? (I am not suggesting a new weapon here - just using an convincing-looking existing one to stand in its place) Also, regarding the SEAL diver, he can also have some sort of NVG accessory to swap with the diving goggle during play. I believe there has been a separate thread opened for the goggle.
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GreenLead wrote:I'm still looking for it. At this point I'm not even sure whether it was Damien's or Will's design, or if it even was on the BrickArms main site or forums. I remember it was something along the lines of "US??" in gold. It can be done, and with little difficulty. The decal you are referring to is the "USCM" logo that Damien designed. I printed it and applied it to Damien's Ripley minifig's upper arm and used decal setting solution to softens the decal, allowing it wrap onto curved surfaces without buckling. I've applied a US WW2 Medic's red-cross decal to an M1 helmet using the same solution.
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Thank you so much, Will! That's the answer I've been looking for. Does that suggest a full body camouflage fatigue is possible? (Assuming the printed decals turn out okay) Looking back through ktear501's reference pics, I think another Navy SEAL variant or two might be good: US Navy SEAL - groundSimilar fatigues to Army/Marine Corps Infantrymen (1) M23 SOCOM Pistol (1) MP5 SMG/M4 Carbine (with a M203 Grenade Launcher?) (1) TLC Dagger (2) M67 Grenades Some sort of hat ( Boonie hat) and a compatible NVG accessory? Facial camouflage? Again, for a sniper, simply exchange the ground SEAL's primary weapon with the PGS1 with a bipod. Because snipers usually work in a team of two (sniper and spotter), a suggestion is that the sniper can be released alone or with a spotter minifig, who will have a pair of binoculars in place of a primary weapon...although I won't be expecting any minifigs attacking his/her adversary with it anytime soon...
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Delta Force operativeSome sort of black vest TLC Skateboard helmet (closest resemblence from watching Black Hawk Down(1) M4 Carbine (1) MP5 SMG (2) M67 Grenades (1) M1911 Pistol (or any other suitable weapon)[/quote] These photos should help Will with the vest. scroll down to the bottom. Also for the sake of BHD I think Will should make it Desert BDU
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Delta Force wrote:These photos should help Will with the vest. I later found in the FAQ that due to Will's cavity-cavity mold configuration, custom helmets or vests aren't likely anytime soon. Suitable ones are available from other vendors. If necessary, a decal could be used instead. Delta Force wrote:Also for the sake of BHD I think Will should make it Desert BDU Ah...the power of cinema! I'd prefer to see it in Desert BDU too, but it's more to do with visual contrast. However, full body camo for a minifig is going to be very tedious to apply, even with decal softners. I've PMed Will about this, and I'm suggesting that these figures be released as kits with decal sheets and weapons rather than completed minifigs.
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GreenLead wrote:I've PMed Will about this, and I'm suggesting that these figures be released as kits with decal sheets and weapons rather than completed minifigs. Sorry I should of been clearer I meant it for it to be a decal sorry.
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