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Tom
Posted: Thursday, December 20, 2007 11:42:14 PM

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[ADMIN - Photo links deleted, as the links were nonresponsive on the Angelfire servers --Will]

Could it be gripped like this?

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Legohead
Posted: Friday, February 01, 2008 1:55:14 AM
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What if the grip was just something similar to the upcoming BrickArms M1 garand or the old TLC musket?

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the enigma that is badger
Posted: Friday, February 01, 2008 2:36:18 AM


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Legohead wrote:
What if the grip was just something similar to the upcoming BrickArms M1 garand or the old TLC musket?

That style of grip is called a "rifle grip" (as opposed to the more common "pistol grip"). If Will were to ever decide to produce this item, that would most likely be the grip design he'd choose to use for the accessory given it would keep the design more accurate to the real-life weapon.

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Posted: Saturday, February 02, 2008 2:09:59 AM

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the enigma that is badger wrote:
That style of grip is called a "rifle grip" (as opposed to the more common "pistol grip").

Actually, I think they call them semi-pistol grips. A full rifle grip would be straight forward like a musket's. I believe any curved, or ergonomic grip is considered a pistol grip.

Otherwise, if Will has the M1 Garand in Mold 3, then this is a very plausible firearm.

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the enigma that is badger
Posted: Saturday, February 02, 2008 2:19:18 AM


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Mcbob wrote:
Actually, I think they call them semi-pistol grips.

Who is this "they" of which you speak? Keep in mind every rifle with a built-in (as opposed to a pistol grip) has a slightly angled stock to allow for better posing; the TLC blunderbuss/musket and upcoming M1 are prime examples.

Just to keep things clear around these parts, "rifle grip" has been and will continue to be the preferred nomenclature for that style of grip.

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Posted: Saturday, February 02, 2008 12:53:42 PM

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the enigma that is badger wrote:
Just to keep things clear around these parts, "rifle grip" has been and will continue to be the preferred nomenclature for that style of grip.

Indeed. one thing though is that the PPSH is seen more often with it's 71 round drum magazine. It is not. Most Russian soldiers carried the more plentiful 37 round box magazine. Perhaps a little modifying can do the trick IF this is made with the drum magazine.

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Posted: Saturday, February 02, 2008 3:41:57 PM


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Mcbob wrote:
Indeed. one thing though is that the PPSH is seen more often with it's 71 round drum magazine. It is not. Most Russian soldiers carried the more plentiful 37 round box magazine. Perhaps a little modifying can do the trick IF this is made with the drum magazine.


I think the drum would make the weapon more instantly recognizable as a PPSh-41. As for whether or not the drum was often used: it was early in the war, before the box magazine was issued, and it continued to see service to the end of the war, as the initial load for a Soviet submchine gunner (one drum would be carried, as well as a number of box magazines). And actually, the box magazine help 35 rounds.

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Mcbob
Posted: Saturday, February 02, 2008 4:44:28 PM

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obxcrew wrote:
I think the drum would make the weapon more instantly recognizable as a PPSh-41. As for whether or not the drum was often used: it was early in the war, before the box magazine was issued, and it continued to see service to the end of the war, as the initial load for a Soviet submchine gunner (one drum would be carried, as well as a number of box magazines). And actually, the box magazine help 35 rounds.

Yes thats it, 35 rounds. My mistake on 37. A variation between the PPSH(s) would add to the effect that every Red Army Soldier was equipped randomly. But all you need for that is some MP5s, and exacto knife, and glue. But we will see what Will's ideas are before hand. It would be foolish of me to buy all those components, and cut up the MP5 Magazines for a brickarm that is not planed yet, hehe.

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Legohead
Posted: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 10:45:04 AM
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One other significant but subtle trait of the PPSH41 that I think would do well in Lego form is the angle of the muzzle. Its not 90 degrees to the rest of the gun. Its angled "down" or "back" like the bow of a ship. Reminds me a little of a laser gun from a comic book that way. Gives it a non-western feel at least to my eyes.

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Posted: Monday, February 11, 2008 12:11:37 PM

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Yes, it is my favorite Soviot weapon of WW2, the stock would be hard to do tho. It would go really good with the Russian minifig's coming out with the new Indiana Jones sets in May.

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Posted: Friday, February 22, 2008 12:05:30 AM

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I really want this gun so BA can have a Russian soldier.

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Posted: Friday, February 22, 2008 12:15:43 AM

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Brickule wrote:
the stock would be hard to do though.

Not to much, it could be molded like the BA M1 Garand.

Anywho, I love this gun! I very cool weapon indead, I'd love to see this made.

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Posted: Thursday, May 22, 2008 1:00:25 PM


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This is a great-looking gun! Everything about it is smooth and deadly.

I hereby throw my full support behind the production of this weapon.

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Posted: Thursday, May 22, 2008 4:34:18 PM

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It looks like a cross between a machine-gun and a shotgun. I love it!!! Would love to see a physical mod of it though.


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Posted: Thursday, May 22, 2008 6:01:48 PM

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Cool idea, but i can't see your version, it says that it's private.

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Mcbob
Posted: Thursday, May 22, 2008 8:25:46 PM

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brickjedi wrote:
It looks like a cross between a machine-gun and a shotgun. I love it!!! Would love to see a physical mod of it though.


Shotgun? How? The PPSH 41 looks nowhere near a shotgun.

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Posted: Monday, November 03, 2008 12:23:36 AM

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Posted: Monday, November 03, 2008 3:10:53 PM

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This is one of my favorite SMG of WW2. It would definatly encourage mr to make a Russian army. ;)

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Posted: Friday, November 07, 2008 11:41:37 PM

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Could the PPSH-41 be made like the upcoming Lewis with a detatchable drum? I seems like it would be a good idea.

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Posted: Thursday, December 11, 2008 8:56:19 AM
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The PPSH would be good for several reasons. First Will now has (including the prototypes) lots of American and German weapons and several british, but no soviet. Second he really has all the parts for it, the barrel of the MG42 would be perfect just cut off the little end. The magizine could be the lewis gun's magizine. Finally he would just have to make a smaller stock of the M1 Grand or the Lee Enfield. Thank you for the brick arms you have. Just a PPSh would be awesome.
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