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Hmmm.... Maybe if the sawn off shotgun goes into full prduction you could use it to replace the M47. I'd also replace the PSG1 with an M21 instead.
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I agree with an M21 for your Mafia sniper, or long range assasin. But this sounds like a really good pack, maybe a derringer for a Boss's last stand if it ever goes into production. Grenades anyone?
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Mandalorian wrote: Grenades anyone? Maybe some kind of molotovs would look cool.
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I'm not sure about replacing the M47 with a Combat Shotgun... the SPAS design just doesn't seam "criminal" to me. But popular vote rules, so if anyone else wants it express your support. :D
A sawed off shotty to replace the M47 and molotovs for explosives would rock, but for the purpose of practicality I'd like to stick to weapons that are already in production or prototypes, so that way it could happen now. :)
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It DOES make more sense to use a SPAS, or sawn off. The deringer does make sense, it just seems very mafia-bossy to me. The M21 would be good, because A. it's real, and B. In all those " assasin video games " They use them. Also, I belive they'd be easier to aquire than some of the others.
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BoB wrote:Sorry for not getting back to this thread sooner, I've been off the forums for a while and just got back this week.
I'll edit the list!
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x2 Thompson SMG
x2 UZI SMG
x2 SW500 revolver
x2 AK-47 assault rifle
x2 M1911 handgun
x1 M47 shotgun (w/out scope)
x1 RPG Anti-Everything weapon
x1 Baseball Bat (for organized crimes' disorganized moments)
x1 Derringer (when you're all out of options...)
x1 M21 Sniper Rifle
Possibilities:
-KA-BAR or Machete... A bladed weapon is a good addition, but neither of those seem to fit the organized crime image quite right.
-Grenades perhaps... if a molotov is ever done, that could replace the grenades, maybe.
There are too many weapons in my opinion. I would remove the RPG and the AK47, as Organized Crime is less involved with local militia or militants. Are we talking Italian Mafia, and the Japanese Yakuza? Too many militarized weapons such as the M21 and the AK47 will dry out the dark and secret feel of Organized Crime. I would also remove the M47 Shotgun, for the more crime orientated SPAS 12. The SPAS 12 is seen much more often in organized-crime movies, over the M47. The SPAS 12 is also popular among the Black Market for it's quantity. And on a side note: The SPAS 12 is an Italian gun. What better to give an Italian Mob a SPAS 12? Oh, enough blabber. I would focus more on melee weapons, and short-range sub-machine guns. If a rifle is included, I would rather have a generic Remington .22 Rifle, or an old civilian Winchester. Not to mention, "Gangstas" are not Gangsters.
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yeah, definetly a baseball bat. maybe a M1911? or that new revolver Will is working on?
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Mcbob wrote:
There are too many weapons in my opinion.
I would remove the RPG and the AK47, as Organized Crime is less involved with local militia or militants. Are we talking Italian Mafia, and the Japanese Yakuza? Too many militarized weapons such as the M21 and the AK47 will dry out the dark and secret feel of Organized Crime. I would also remove the M47 Shotgun, for the more crime orientated SPAS 12. The SPAS 12 is seen much more often in organized-crime movies, over the M47. The SPAS 12 is also popular among the Black Market for it's quantity.
And on a side note: The SPAS 12 is an Italian gun. What better to give an Italian Mob a SPAS 12? Oh, enough blabber.
I would focus more on melee weapons, and short-range sub-machine guns. If a rifle is included, I would rather have a generic Remington .22 Rifle, or an old civilian Winchester.
Not to mention, "Gangstas" are not Gangsters.
A very good point, that first bit. And the SPAS it shall be! I'm not very familiar with it, and didn't know those interesting tidbits. Thanks! Here's the list so far: UPDATED:x2 Thompson SMG x2 UZI SMG x2 SW500 revolver x2 M1911 handgun x1 Combat Shotgun (SPAS-12) x1 Baseball Bat (for organized crimes' disorganized moments) x1 Derringer (when you're all out of options...) x1 M21 Sniper Rifle Possibilities: -KA-BAR or Machete... A bladed weapon is a good addition, but neither of those seem to fit the organized crime image quite right.... -Grenades perhaps... if a molotov is ever done, that could replace the grenades, maybe. -RPG. Mcbob made a good point, but this seems like it would fit regardless. And besides, the Joker used one! :D
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Mcbob wrote: The SPAS 12 is also popular among the Black Market for it's quantity. Actually, the SPAS-12 is no longer produced, as the company moved on to the SPAS-15. BoB wrote:UPDATED:
x2 Thompson SMG
x2 UZI SMG
x2 SW500 revolver
x2 M1911 handgun
x1 Combat Shotgun (SPAS-12)
x1 Baseball Bat (for organized crimes' disorganized moments)
x1 Derringer (when you're all out of options...)
x1 M21 Sniper Rifle I like it!
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Brickfan93 wrote:Mcbob wrote: The SPAS 12 is also popular among the Black Market for it's quantity. Actually, the SPAS-12 is no longer produced, as the company moved on to the SPAS-15. Also, I'm pretty sure that it's illegal to import them to the US anymore. If anyone's interested, here's a Wikipedia entry for the SPAS 12. :-) Anyway, I like this idea, although I think it should include a combat knife instead of a Derringer, and have a M47 shotgun included, too. :-) RoA
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The Ranger of Awesomeness wrote:I'm pretty sure that it's illegal to import them to the US anymore. And criminals would NEVER do anything illegal. ;) obxcrew
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The Ranger of Awesomeness wrote:I like this idea, although I think it should include a combat knife instead of a Derringer, and have a M47 shotgun included. I actually think that the Derringer would be a better choice. Easily concealed, but still able to pack a punch, it would be perfect for a gangster boss or just a pusher. Combat knife, although it is ridiculously awesome, just doesn't seem to fit (IMHO).
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The Ranger of Awesomeness wrote:Brickfan93 wrote:Mcbob wrote: The SPAS 12 is also popular among the Black Market for it's quantity. Actually, the SPAS-12 is no longer produced, as the company moved on to the SPAS-15. Also, I'm pretty sure that it's illegal to import them to the US anymore. If anyone's interested, here's a Wikipedia entry for the SPAS 12. :-) Yes, it is illegal to import them,but due to the fact that the SPAS 12 is a title 2 firearm, transfers within the country are still unobstucted. (Relatively)
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[/quote] UPDATED:x2 Thompson SMG x2 UZI SMG x2 SW500 revolver x2 M1911 handgun x1 Combat Shotgun (SPAS-12) x1 Baseball Bat (for organized crimes' disorganized moments) x1 Derringer (when you're all out of options...) x1 M21 Sniper Rifle Possibilities: -KA-BAR or Machete... A bladed weapon is a good addition, but neither of those seem to fit the organized crime image quite right.... -Grenades perhaps... if a molotov is ever done, that could replace the grenades, maybe. -RPG. Mcbob made a good point, but this seems like it would fit regardless. And besides, the Joker used one! :D [/quote] I say yes for a KA-BAR and I like the pack so far.
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Brickfan93 wrote:Mcbob wrote: The SPAS 12 is also popular among the Black Market for it's quantity. Actually, the SPAS-12 is no longer produced, as the company moved on to the SPAS-15. Indeed, tis a shame when I found that out a few months back. The SPAS 12 was one of my favorite weapons. Quote:-RPG. Mcbob made a good point, but this seems like it would fit regardless. And besides, the Joker used one! :D Sheesh, I am so foolish for waiting for the Dark Knight on DVD. Should have got in line at the theater when I had the chance.
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obxcrew wrote:The Ranger of Awesomeness wrote:I'm pretty sure that it's illegal to import them to the US anymore. And criminals would NEVER do anything illegal. ;) obxcrew I know, but my point is that it would be harder to get your hands on than a generic pump-action 12-gauge like the M47. Not saying I don't like the idea of including it! :-)
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Mcbob wrote:Brickfan93 wrote:Mcbob wrote: The SPAS 12 is also popular among the Black Market for it's quantity. Actually, the SPAS-12 is no longer produced, as the company moved on to the SPAS-15. Indeed, tis a shame when I found that out a few months back. The SPAS 12 was one of my favorite weapons. Yeah, it sure is. The SPAS-15 is so utterly unremarkable. Mcbob wrote:Sheesh, I am so foolish for waiting for the Dark Knight on DVD. Should have got in line at the theater when I had the chance. Yes, see it as soon as you can. It's awesome, I saw it twice and liked it each time. If you don't believe the awesome part, ask obx, who has been singing its praises since he saw it :-) I'm kinda undecided about the RPG, but it might be a good addition.
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Just to throw in my two cents on the above discussion:
SPAS-12: Regardless of its legality or whether or not it's produced, first off, there's the black market after all... and hey, the pack doesn't have to be completely modern either. :-) So I'd say it's fine as is, IMO.
I'm conflicted about the RPG. It definitely is more associated with foreign terrorists and such as opposed to the mob, but it still seems like it would have a place. The Joker used it, the mafia uses one in Artemis Fowl: The Arctic Incident, etc.
The combat knife doesn't seem like a good fit to me either.
I'd say if we add one more weapon at all it should be the RPG.
But that's just me. : )
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Mcbob wrote:There are too many weapons in my opinion. You can NEVER have too many weapons in my opinion.
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MetalGearAddict wrote:Mcbob wrote:There are too many weapons in my opinion. You can NEVER have too many weapons in my opinion. I meant by variety. Oops. Quote:The combat knife doesn't seem like a good fit to me either. If we're talking knives, I would prefer a butterfly knife of a small switch blade for concealed use. I mean, what looks cooler than a spiffed up Mobster with a pistol in one hand, and a small switch blade he's tossing around in the other.
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