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M136 AT4 Light Anti-Tank Weapon Options
GreenLead
Posted: Monday, February 11, 2008 9:46:41 PM

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obxcrew wrote:
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As promised, some CAD mockups in Pro/Desktop!


Nice work! I like how the design can be changed if different pieces are used.

Thanks! And with some modification, the Javelin AT can be depicted as well.

Disassembled, the parts would fit nicely in a TLC Crate (as used for the Boom Box).


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Posted: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 10:33:03 PM

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And If some one can make a sling for this I can add it for my 1993 75th Army Ranger (Black Hawk Down)

Hmm...I'll have to ask MMCB if he can fix something up for us...

Off the top of my head, my new weapons strap would probably work. Being elastic it should stretch far enough to fit that. If not, I can easily make a larger version.

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Posted: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 11:23:03 PM

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Thats sounds great, MMCB! Just wondering, would the flat strap with formed into a ring on both ends work?


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Posted: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 11:33:00 PM

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There would be a twist in the strap because you'd be changing the orientation of it, but yeah, I can't see why it wouldn't work.

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GreenLead
Posted: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 11:37:17 PM

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mmcb wrote:
There would be a twist in the strap because you'd be changing the orientation of it, but yeah, I can't see why it wouldn't work.

It wouldn't be that noticable anyway - besides, that's what it's probably like on the original.

Okay, having read in detail manly_man_14's two-halves suggestion, which one does everyone prefer - that or TLC pin joiner with custom muzzle, trigger and venturi?


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Posted: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 11:42:21 PM


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GreenLead wrote:
Okay, having read in detail manly_man_14's two-halves suggestion, which one does everyone prefer - that or TLC pin joiner with custom muzzle, trigger and venturi?


I, personally, like your idea better - I'm a huge fan of being able to make different weapons using different configurations of parts.

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Posted: Saturday, March 01, 2008 11:02:19 PM

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Another argument against the two halves approach - the halves would require a core-cavity configuration, ableit a less-pronounced one.

What does everyone think now?


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Posted: Sunday, March 02, 2008 5:06:39 AM

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Another argument against the two halves approach - the halves would require a core-cavity configuration, ableit a less-pronounced one.

What does everyone think now?


I like the whole idea, realy. I also agree with obxcrew, it would be great to customize it in different forms. About the core-cavity, I think Will (or badger) said that he could not do core-cavity right now, or is that a different type of mold?

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Posted: Sunday, March 02, 2008 5:16:20 AM

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hobo4ever wrote:
About the core-cavity, I think Will (or badger) said that he could not do core-cavity right now, or is that a different type of mold?

Core-cavity is different from the cavity-cavity system currently used.

While Will has stated in the WWII British soldier thread the possibility of using the core-cavity system in a smaller mold to prototype the Brodie helmet, as far as I know, there hasn't been further info about this.

Not to continually blow my own horn, but if you have a look at the muzzle, trigger adapter and venturi parts, you might notice they are actually hollow, and the hole goes right through. However, they are shallow enough to be molded using Will's current cavity-cavity system. After all, think of those parts as somewhat...hang on...what's the word...mutated rings.


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Posted: Sunday, October 05, 2008 6:57:49 AM
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that would be great for some modern marines trying to take down an enemy tank or chopper not to mention it would scare the brick out of most minis

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Posted: Monday, October 06, 2008 3:01:38 AM

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With the new WWII Bazooka prototype announced, I realised that, since Will appears to be going for solid launch tube constructions, maybe the M136 AT4 could be of a similar size, but with a different muzzle and venturi design.

What do you guys say?


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Posted: Monday, October 06, 2008 12:35:54 PM

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GreenLead wrote:
What do you guys say?


I say that's a darned good idea. However, the AT4 doesn't have a handle (I don't think). How would the fig hold it?

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I would love to see an AT4 rocket, it would go great with the Bazooka.

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Posted: Monday, October 06, 2008 9:11:37 PM

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Brickfan93 wrote:
the AT4 doesn't have a handle (I don't think). How would the fig hold it?


Ref image.

You're right - it doesn't have an actual grip. But I suppose adding a minifig-compatible one on wouldn't detract from the overall profile. :)


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Posted: Monday, October 06, 2008 10:21:48 PM

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Well, there you go guys. Prototyped :-P Will, you amaze me.

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Posted: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 12:34:28 AM

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xmrsmoothx wrote:
Well, there you go guys. Prototyped :-P Will, you amaze me.

I would have to disagree here. The bazooka prototype is a WWII design with rounded muzzles and a plain launch tube, whereas the thoroughly-modern AT4 has octagonal muzzles and back venturi, as well as more detail on the launch tube.

As such, I still think the AT4 deserves to part of the future line-up as its own accessory, rather than subsituted by another design.


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Posted: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 1:51:41 AM

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Eh. I think it's good enough.

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Posted: Thursday, October 09, 2008 10:19:12 PM

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GreenLead wrote:
The bazooka prototype is a WWII design with rounded muzzles and a plain launch tube, whereas the thoroughly-modern AT4 has octagonal muzzles and back venturi, as well as more detail on the launch tube.

As such, I still think the AT4 deserves to part of the future line-up as its own accessory, rather than subsituted by another design.


I agree.

However, I'm rather undecided as to the grip. Obviously, it's Will's decision, but I don't know about how a handle would look. I suppose that it would have to have one, or else a fig couldn't hold it.

Here's an idea, though, although not a very good one: Perhaps a monopod with the "jaws" wide enough to fit around the launch tube?

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Posted: Friday, October 10, 2008 8:53:11 AM

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Brickfan93 wrote:
However, I'm rather undecided as to the grip. Obviously, it's Will's decision, but I don't know about how a handle would look. I suppose that it would have to have one, or else a fig couldn't hold it.

Here's an idea, though, although not a very good one: Perhaps a monopod with the "jaws" wide enough to fit around the launch tube?


I feel that it may be a unitasker - something that serves only one purpose. The standard BA monopod is designed to fit a variety of weapons, whereas the large monopod suggested would only be useful for the AT4. But still, good idea.

Here's a ref pic for those who are wondering how the AT4 is held.


Note that the Swedish soldier here fires the AT4 with her right hand, by pushing the trigger on the top of the tube. She holds onto a fold-out front handle with her left hand. So I believe for all intents and purposes, a potential BA AT4 should have a simple fixed handle - not only does it look authentic, it also permits flexibility when arming a AT specialist minifig.


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Posted: Friday, October 10, 2008 12:21:46 PM

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Angry women and rocket launchers . . . time to hide.

Folded out front handle? I didn't know that existed. I held an AT4 once and it didn't have one. Guess it was either removed or folded away. *smacks forehead* I knew they held something, but I thought it was just where the strap met the barrel. However, a quick flick around Google told me what I needed to know:



I agree that a handle (since I now know that it exists) would be an essential detail. I wonder how many of the exterior details could be reproduced?

EDIT: I'm still not sure what's happening in this AT4 picture . . .

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